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John Thomas Ball

Position: forward

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HAN P W D L F A Diff Win%
H 26 12 4 10 37 42 -5 46.15
A 24 4 4 16 36 62 -26 16.67
TOTALS 50 16 8 26 73 104 -31 32.00

Name: John Thomas Ball
Birthdate: 13-09-1907
Age: 118
Birthplace: Banks, Southport, England
Height: 5' 10" (1.78m)
Weight: 12st 9lbs (80.29kg)
Years at Club: 1929-1930, 1932-1935
Signing Info: Transferred from: Chorley, 06/05/1929, £. 2nd Spell, Transferred from: Sheffield Wednesday, 12/1933, (swap deal for Neil Dewar)
Previous Clubs: Chorley, Sheffield Wednesday
Debut: 11/09/1929 v Leicester City (H) 2-1 (League Division One)
Farewell: 1st Farewell: Transferred to Sheffield Wednesday, 07/1930, £. 2nd Farewell: iled Transferred to Huddersfield Town, 09/1934, £
Passed Away: 02/02/1976

Biography

John Ball is one of those rare United players who played for the club across two spells, between 1929-1930 & 1932-1935 it all began when he was transferred from Chorley, 06/05/1929 after the forward had registered 58 goals in a single season of Lancashire Combination football, those goals leading to Manchester United chasing his signature. John in his 1st year made 24 appearance scoring 11 goals before moving clubs making his name more at Sheffield than Manchester with the Wednesday. John managed a quite remarkable hoard of 94 domestic goals while with the Owls during his 3 and a half seasons before returning to the Reds in December 1933 in a swap deal including United's Neil Dewar going to Hillsborough.

Jack during his career also managed to play in all three league divisions during September & October 1934. managing only another 26 appearances and 7 goals, John found himself transferred to Huddersfield Town in September of 1934, after an extremely short stay he moved to Luton Town.

After finishing and hanging up his boots, He had a short spell in France as a coach with Excelsior Roubaix and also managed St Albans City and Biggleswade Town after World War Two.
 
League League Cup FA Cup Charity Shield European Cup Europa League Super Cup Cup Winners Cup Inter-cont Cup World Clubs Cup    
Season Goals Season Apps
No Season League Goals League Apps LC Goals LC Apps FAC Goals FAC Apps CS Goals CS Apps EC Goals EC Apps Europa Goals Europa Apps SC Goals SC Apps CWC Goals CWC Apps IC Goals IC Apps CWC Goals CWC Apps Season
Goals		 Season
Apps
1. 1929-1930 11 23 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11 24
2. 1933-1934 5 18 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 20
3. 1934-1935 1 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 6
TOTALS 17 47 0 0 1 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18 50

Detailed Match & Performance Charts

MUFC Player Goals MUFC Player Appearances MUFC Player Opponent Manager MUFC Player Club Manager
No Opponent Goals Apps
1. Arsenal 2 2
2. Leeds United 2 2
3. Bolton Wanderers 2 4
4. Leicester City 1 1
5. Grimsby Town 1 1
6. Sheffield Wednesday 1 1
7. Blackburn Rovers 1 1
8. Brentford 1 1
9. Bury 1 1
10. Hull City 1 1
11. Fulham 1 1
12. Derby County 1 2
13. Sunderland 1 2
14. Sheffield United 1 2
15. Portsmouth 1 2
No Opponent Apps Goals
1. Bolton Wanderers 4 2
2. Burnley 3 0
3. Arsenal 2 2
4. Derby County 2 1
5. Sunderland 2 1
6. Leeds United 2 2
7. Birmingham City 2 0
8. Sheffield United 2 1
9. Portsmouth 2 1
10. West Ham United 2 0
11. Bradford City 2 0
12. Leicester City 1 1
13. Grimsby Town 1 1
14. Aston Villa 1 0
15. Sheffield Wednesday 1 1
16. Everton 1 0
17. Newcastle United 1 0
18. Blackburn Rovers 1 1
19. Swindon Town 1 0
20. Middlesbrough 1 0
21. Huddersfield Town 1 0
22. Plymouth Argyle 1 0
23. Lincoln City 1 0
24. Brentford 1 1
25. Oldham Athletic 1 0
26. Preston North End 1 0
27. Bradford Park Avenue 1 0
28. Bury 1 1
29. Hull City 1 1
30. Fulham 1 1
31. Southampton 1 0
32. Blackpool 1 0
33. Swansea City 1 0
34. Millwall 1 0
35. Barnsley 1 0
36. Port Vale 1 0
No Opponent Manager No
1. Foweraker, Charles 4
2. Chapman, Herbert 2
3. Jobey, George 2
4. Pickles, Albert 2
5. Cochrane, Johnny 2
6. Ray, Dick 2
7. Knighton, Leslie 2
8. Tinn, Jack 2
9. Paynter, Charlie 2
10. Peart, Jack 2
11. Orr, William 1
12. Gillow, Wilf 1
13. Smith, W J 1
14. Brown, Robert 1
15. McIntosh, Thomas 1
16. Watt, Frank 1
17. Crompton, Bob 1
18. Allen, Sam 1
19. McWilliam, Peter 1
20. Stephenson, Clem 1
21. Nicholson, John 1
22. Jack, Bob 1
23. Parkes, Harry 1
24. Curtis, Harry 1
25. Bromilow, Tom 1
26. Mellor, Robert 1
27. Preston North End Committee 1
28. Bradford Park Avenue Committee 1
29. Paine, Arthur 1
30. Hill, John 1
31. Hogan, Jimmy 1
32. Kay, George 1
33. MacFarlane, Alex 1
34. Green, Haydn 1
35. McCracken, Bill 1
36. Davison, Teddy 1
37. Fletcher, Brough 1
38. Morgan, Tom 1
No MUFC Managers Count
1. Duncan, Scott 26
2. Bamlett, Herbert 24
Opponents Opponent Nationality Competition Stadiums
No Opponent Count
1. Bolton Wanderers 4
2. Burnley 3
3. Arsenal 2
4. Derby County 2
5. Sunderland 2
6. Leeds United 2
7. Birmingham City 2
8. Sheffield United 2
9. Portsmouth 2
10. West Ham United 2
11. Bradford City 2
12. Leicester City 1
13. Grimsby Town 1
14. Aston Villa 1
15. Sheffield Wednesday 1
16. Everton 1
17. Newcastle United 1
18. Blackburn Rovers 1
19. Swindon Town 1
20. Middlesbrough 1
21. Huddersfield Town 1
22. Plymouth Argyle 1
23. Lincoln City 1
24. Brentford 1
25. Oldham Athletic 1
26. Preston North End 1
27. Bradford Park Avenue 1
28. Bury 1
29. Hull City 1
30. Fulham 1
31. Southampton 1
32. Blackpool 1
33. Swansea City 1
34. Millwall 1
35. Barnsley 1
36. Port Vale 1
No Opponent Nationality Count
1. England 49
2. Wales 1
No Competition Count
1. League Division Two 24
2. League Division One 23
3. FA Cup 3
No Stadium Count
1. Old Trafford 26
2. Burnden Park 2
3. Turf Moor 2
4. Anlaby Road 1
5. Baseball Ground 1
6. Boleyn Ground 1
7. Bramall Lane 1
8. Deepdale 1
9. Elland Road 1
10. Ewood Park 1
11. Fratton Park 1
12. Goodison Park 1
13. Highbury 1
14. Hillsborough 1
15. Leeds Road 1
16. Old Recreation Ground 1
17. Roker Park 1
18. Sincil Bank 1
19. St Andrews 1
20. The Dell 1
21. The Den 1
22. Valley Parade 1
23. Villa Park 1
Red Cards Cup Finals
No Date Opponent Competition
Player has never been sent off during a match.
No Date Opponent WDL F-A Competition
Player never featured in a Cup Final.
Penalties scored for Manchester United Roy Keane own goal v Real Madrid Old Trafford 2000
No Date Opponents Competition Penaltys
Player has never scored a penalty for the club.
No Date Opponent Competition Own Goals
Player has never scored an own goal against the club.
 
Manchester United Hat-Tricks  
No Date Opponent Competition Goals
Player has never scored a hat-trick or better during a game.
 

All Matches played
No Date ▲ Comp Opponent WDL F-A HAN Goal!! Scorers Opponent scorers
1. 11-09-1929 League Division One Leicester City Leicester City Win 2-1 H 1 Joe Spence 46', Jack Ball 80' Len Barry 70'
2. 12-10-1929 League Division One Grimsby Town Grimsby Town Loss 2-5 H 1 Jack Ball 20', Harry Rowley 27' Joseph Robson 12', 80', Stephen Coglin 37', John Bestall 67', Ernie Coleman 73'
3. 26-10-1929 League Division One Arsenal Arsenal Win 1-0 H 1 Jack Ball 37'
4. 02-11-1929 League Division One Aston Villa Aston Villa Loss 0-1 A 0 *Reg Chester 80'
5. 09-11-1929 League Division One Derby County Derby County Win 3-2 H 1 James Hanson 20', Jack Ball 83', Harry Rowley 88' George Mee 27', Harry Bedford 38'
6. 16-11-1929 League Division One Sheffield Wednesday Sheffield Wednesday Loss 2-7 A 1 Jack Ball 15', James Hanson 89' Ellis Rimmer 24', 55', Jack Allen 34', 44', 79', 87', Mark Hooper 29'
7. 23-11-1929 League Division One Burnley Burnley Win 1-0 H 0 Harry Rowley 70'
8. 30-11-1929 League Division One Sunderland Sunderland Win 4-2 A 1 Joe Spence 25, 70', James Hanson 72', Jack Ball 84' Gordon Gunson 15', Evelyn Morrison 87'
9. 07-12-1929 League Division One Bolton Wanderers Bolton Wanderers Draw 1-1 H 1 Jack Ball 44' Harold Blackmore 32'
10. 14-12-1929 League Division One Everton Everton Draw 0-0 A 0
11. 21-12-1929 League Division One Leeds United Leeds United Win 3-1 H 2 Jack Ball 5', 30', James Hanson 8' Eric Longden 43'
12. 25-12-1929 League Division One Birmingham City Birmingham City Draw 0-0 H 0
13. 26-12-1929 League Division One Birmingham City Birmingham City Win 1-0 A 0 Harry Rowley 21'
14. 28-12-1929 League Division One Newcastle United Newcastle United Win 5-0 H 0 Harry Rowley 8', Thomas Boyle 27' 34' (pen), George McLachlan 33', Joe Spence 36'
15. 04-01-1930 League Division One Blackburn Rovers Blackburn Rovers Loss 4-5 A 1 Jack Ball 6', Harry Rowley 52', Thomas Boyle 80' (pen), 86' Arthur Cunliffe ??', ??', Clarrie Bourton ??', Tommy McClean ??', Bill Imrie ??' (pen)
16. 11-01-1930 FA Cup Swindon Town Swindon Town Loss 0-2 H 0 Joe Eddleston 29', Les Roberts 68'
17. 18-01-1930 League Division One Middlesbrough Middlesbrough Loss 0-3 H 0 Ernie Muttit 26', Billy Pease 30', George Camsell 48'
18. 12-03-1930 League Division One Arsenal Arsenal Loss 2-4 A 1 Jack Ball 80', John Wilson 82' Cliff Bastin 7', Joe Williams 14', Jack Lambert 43', Joe Hulme 57'
19. 15-03-1930 League Division One Derby County Derby County Draw 1-1 A 0 Harry Rowley 67' Sammy Crooks 16'
20. 29-03-1930 League Division One Burnley Burnley Loss 0-4 A 0 Alex Forrest 9' (pen), George Beel 14', 87', Peter O'Dowd 42'
21. 05-04-1930 League Division One Sunderland Sunderland Win 2-1 H 0 Hugh McLenahan 55', 63' Bobby Gurney 72'
22. 22-04-1930 League Division One Huddersfield Town Huddersfield Town Draw 2-2 A 0 Hugh McLenahan 20', Clarence Hilditch 21' (pen) Jimmy Smailes 43', Wilf Lewis 53'
23. 26-04-1930 League Division One Leeds United Leeds United Loss 1-3 A 0 Joe Spence 68' Charlie Keetley 69', 73', Joe Firth 78'
24. 03-05-1930 League Division One Sheffield United Sheffield United Loss 1-5 H 0 Harry Rowley 15' Jimmy Dunne 10', Billy Gillespie 60', 78', Sid Gibson 68', Fred Tunstall 74' (pen)
25. 30-12-1933 League Division Two Plymouth Argyle Plymouth Argyle Loss 0-3 H 0 Jack Demmelweek 65', Jimmy Cookson 68', Ted Melaniphy 81'
26. 06-01-1934 League Division Two Lincoln City Lincoln City Loss 1-5 A 0 James Brown 1' Chick Reed 30', 87', George Whyte 60', Johnny Campbell 80', Jack Wilkinson 84'
27. 13-01-1934 FA Cup Portsmouth Portsmouth Draw 1-1 H 0 Hugh McLenahan 85' Billy Bagley 12'
28. 17-01-1934 FA Cup Portsmouth Portsmouth Loss 1-4 A 1 Jack Ball 50' Jack Weddle 16', 77', Len McCarthy 30', Jack Smith 59'
29. 20-01-1934 League Division Two Bolton Wanderers Bolton Wanderers Loss 1-3 A 1 Jack Ball 44' Ray Westwood 16', George Taylor 32', Harry Goslin 70' (pen)
30. 27-01-1934 League Division Two Brentford Brentford Loss 1-3 H 1 Jack Ball 3' Ernie Muttitt 18', 53', Charlie Fletcher 63'
31. 03-02-1934 League Division Two Burnley Burnley Win 4-1 A 0 Jack Cape 30', 62', Edward Green 38', William Stewart 51' *Arthur Warburton 1'
32. 10-02-1934 League Division Two Oldham Athletic Oldham Athletic Loss 2-3 H 0 Edward Green 7', Jack Cape 42' (pen) *Tom Reid 9', Peter Burke 67', Cliff Chadwick 73'
33. 21-02-1934 League Division Two Preston North End Preston North End Loss 2-3 A 0 Stanley Gallimore 77', 83' Jimmy Dougal 50', Jack Palethorpe 53', Bob Kelly 58'
34. 24-02-1934 League Division Two Bradford Park Avenue Bradford Park Avenue Loss 0-4 H 0 Harold Blackmore 60', 73', Thomas Lewis 74', Ernie Suggett 86'
35. 03-03-1934 League Division Two Bury Bury Win 2-1 H 1 Stanley Gallimore 82', Jack Ball 87' Arthur Buttery 1'
36. 10-03-1934 League Division Two Hull City Hull City Loss 1-4 A 1 Jack Ball 25' William McNoughton 1', 9', Arthur Bullock 28', David Jordan 89'
37. 17-03-1934 League Division Two Fulham Fulham Win 1-0 H 1 Jack Ball 60'
38. 24-03-1934 League Division Two Southampton Southampton Loss 0-1 A 0 Norman Cole 65'
39. 30-03-1934 League Division Two West Ham United West Ham United Loss 0-1 H 0 Ted Fenton 35'
40. 31-03-1934 League Division Two Blackpool Blackpool Win 2-0 H 0 Jack Cape ??', Ernest Hine ??'
41. 02-04-1934 League Division Two West Ham United West Ham United Loss 1-2 A 0 Jack Cape 69' (pen) Jimmy Wood 48', 71'
42. 07-04-1934 League Division Two Bradford City Bradford City Draw 1-1 A 0 Jack Cape 83' (pen) Norman Robson 63'
43. 28-04-1934 League Division Two Swansea City Swansea City Draw 1-1 H 0 Henry Topping 2' Jack Firth 80'
44. 05-05-1934 League Division Two Millwall Millwall Win 2-0 A 0 Thomas Manley 8', Jack Cape 46'
45. 25-08-1934 League Division Two Bradford City Bradford City Win 2-0 H 0 Thomas Manley 38', 66'
46. 01-09-1934 League Division Two Sheffield United Sheffield United Loss 2-3 A 1 Thomas Manley 1', Jack Ball 35' *William Boyd 6', 30', Jack Pickering 58'
47. 03-09-1934 League Division Two Bolton Wanderers Bolton Wanderers Loss 1-3 A 0 Tom Finney 10' (o.g.) Jack Milsom 6' (pen), Jack Atkinson 28', George Vose 67' (o.g.)
48. 08-09-1934 League Division Two Barnsley Barnsley Win 4-1 H 0 George Mutch 24', 26', 30', Thomas Manley 50' Dick Spence 7'
49. 12-09-1934 League Division Two Bolton Wanderers Bolton Wanderers Loss 0-3 H 0 Jack Milsom 20, Ray Westwood 27', George Eastham ??'
50. 15-09-1934 League Division Two Port Vale Port Vale Loss 2-3 A 0 Thomas J. Jones 35', George Mutch 40' John Friar 5' (pen), 53', Wilf Nolan 73'
 

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